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ASIANUX2.0产品及红旗5.0系列新品 受到Distrowatch.com猛烈批评!

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发表于 2005-8-30 08:42:48 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
摘自 http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20050829#1

大概批评观点如下:
1、网站上有大量的Flash和无效联接 - Asianux
2、夸大事实的广告言辞 - Asianux
3、无RPM和源代码储备 - Asianux
4、“固执地”(原文)模仿Windows - RedFlag


Asianux - is the hype justified?

Asianux The launch of Asianux 2.0 last week has attracted much attention in the Linux and computing media around the Internet. This is easy to understand - the idea of creating a common base and unified standards, with support for the complex writing systems of the countries of East Asia, Asianux certainly looks like a step in the right direction. The project has also been embraced by Oracle and some hardware manufacturers as one of the key Linux players, alongside Red Hat and Novell, to include in the testing and support infrastructure.

But is Asianux really what it claims to be - a pan-Asian panacea for high cost of proprietary software licenses and a universal solution for Asian computer users? As it stands now, we highly doubt it - for two reasons: lack of openness and non-participation of other important Linux players in Asia.

The lack of openness is most alarming. The Asianux web site is a haphazardly designed portal, with broken links, annoying Flash animation, badly formatted press releases, and plenty of self-praise for being an "extreme success" and for becoming "one of the three major Linux server distributions in the world". Similar unfounded statements litter the Asianux web site - while, at the same time, its Success Story page remains amazingly bare.

Despite a so-called "release" of Asianux 2.0 last week, the distribution is nowhere to be had. Its download page still links to Asianux 1.0 ISO images and no public beta testing process preceded the product launch. Similarly, there is no depository of RPM packages and no source code available for download. Even worse, with the exception of the self-glorifying and poorly formatted press release, the Asianux web site provides no information about the product's features. Bug reporting facilities and security notification infrastructure are also absent from the site.

Granted, Asianux is meant to serve as a base system upon which the three participating companies - Red Flag Software, Miracle Linux and Haansoft - build their own products. Yet, one cannot but feel disappointed about the secrecy with which the project presents its development work - instead of openly inviting Asian users, developers and companies to participate in the development process, all work on Asianux takes place behind closed doors. This not only goes against the spirit of Linux and Free Software, it is also against the interest of Asian Linux users.

Thus the only publicly available product based on Asianux 2.0 at this time is a beta release of Red Flag Linux 5.0, released last week. Downloadable from a single (i.e. extremely slow) FTP server, this is a desktop Linux distribution where Red Flag stubbornly continues in its effort to turn Linux into a Windows clone (see screenshot below). That's not to say that it is a bad product; perhaps somewhat outdated and without a good office suite, but nevertheless very usable, with solid support for simplified Chinese and other conveniences that make Red Flag Linux just about as usable as Microsoft Windows on the desktop - and that can't be a bad thing.

The beta release of Red Flag Linux 5.0 Desktop aside, the sad truth is that Asianux is not one of the three major Linux distributions in the world, not even close. In its current state, Asianux is little else than hype spread by the three commercial companies involved in the project. And unless the responsible parties fix their half-broken web site, open up the project for public participation, and invite other major Asian players to join in, Asianux is unlikely to become anything but overhyped and glorified vapourware, a fate so similar to the failed United Linux.
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发表于 2005-8-30 09:01:08 | 显示全部楼层
3、无RPM和源代码储备 - Asianux-其实这个问题才是最致命的,也是亟需解决的。
其实Asianux的政治意义大于商业意义,基本上是中日韩三国政府关起门来搞的,商业前途比较黯淡。
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发表于 2005-8-30 09:07:01 | 显示全部楼层
Post by MACHINE
摘自 http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20050829#1
Asianux - is the hype justified?

Asianux The launch of Asianux 2.0 last week has attracted much attention in the Linux and computing media around the Internet. This is easy to understand - the idea of creating a common base and unified standards, with support for the complex writing systems of the countries of East Asia, Asianux certainly looks like a step in the right direction. The project has also been embraced by Oracle and some hardware manufacturers as one of the key Linux players, alongside Red Hat and Novell, to include in the testing and support infrastructure.

But is Asianux really what it claims to be - a pan-Asian panacea for high cost of proprietary software licenses and a universal solution for Asian computer users? As it stands now, we highly doubt it - for two reasons: lack of openness and non-participation of other important Linux players in Asia.

The lack of openness is most alarming. The Asianux web site is a haphazardly designed portal, with broken links, annoying Flash animation, badly formatted press releases, and plenty of self-praise for being an "extreme success" and for becoming "one of the three major Linux server distributions in the world". Similar unfounded statements litter the Asianux web site - while, at the same time, its Success Story page remains amazingly bare.

Despite a so-called "release" of Asianux 2.0 last week, the distribution is nowhere to be had. Its download page still links to Asianux 1.0 ISO images and no public beta testing process preceded the product launch. Similarly, there is no depository of RPM packages and no source code available for download. Even worse, with the exception of the self-glorifying and poorly formatted press release, the Asianux web site provides no information about the product's features. Bug reporting facilities and security notification infrastructure are also absent from the site.

Granted, Asianux is meant to serve as a base system upon which the three participating companies - Red Flag Software, Miracle Linux and Haansoft - build their own products. Yet, one cannot but feel disappointed about the secrecy with which the project presents its development work - instead of openly inviting Asian users, developers and companies to participate in the development process, all work on Asianux takes place behind closed doors. This not only goes against the spirit of Linux and Free Software, it is also against the interest of Asian Linux users.

Thus the only publicly available product based on Asianux 2.0 at this time is a beta release of Red Flag Linux 5.0, released last week. Downloadable from a single (i.e. extremely slow) FTP server, this is a desktop Linux distribution where Red Flag stubbornly continues in its effort to turn Linux into a Windows clone (see screenshot below). That's not to say that it is a bad product; perhaps somewhat outdated and without a good office suite, but nevertheless very usable, with solid support for simplified Chinese and other conveniences that make Red Flag Linux just about as usable as Microsoft Windows on the desktop - and that can't be a bad thing.

The beta release of Red Flag Linux 5.0 Desktop aside, the sad truth is that Asianux is not one of the three major Linux distributions in the world, not even close. In its current state, Asianux is little else than hype spread by the three commercial companies involved in the project. And unless the responsible parties fix their half-broken web site, open up the project for public participation, and invite other major Asian players to join in, Asianux is unlikely to become anything but overhyped and glorified vapourware, a fate so similar to the failed United Linux.


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发表于 2005-8-30 11:13:04 | 显示全部楼层
一般来说,老外是希望亚洲人、中国人都做不出什么东西,做出来了也要用口水淹死^^
两个字:无聊
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发表于 2005-8-30 12:20:31 | 显示全部楼层
Post by lfm09
一般来说,老外是希望亚洲人、中国人都做不出什么东西,做出来了也要用口水淹死^^
两个字:无聊

主要还是界面模仿XP,模仿老外审美观点作出来的界面。
而且是卖在亚洲,人家老外都看不过去了
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发表于 2005-8-30 13:01:55 | 显示全部楼层
批评很好。古人闻过则喜,我们也应该这么做。RF在输入法和其它方面上做了很大的努力,但没有开源,的确和Linux的自由理念不合。Asianux骨子里太象RH了,表面上又很象Windows,让不人知所以。如果这是商业的需要,政府的需要,那没说的了,跟我这种普通用户无关。不管怎样,我是接受批评的,更希望RF能做得更好。
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发表于 2005-8-30 19:54:42 | 显示全部楼层
good,someone tell me the truth!
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发表于 2005-9-3 20:45:23 | 显示全部楼层
易用是关键,模仿WIN也有他的好处,可以让初学者很快上手!
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发表于 2005-9-4 12:43:01 | 显示全部楼层
不说界面怎么样。红旗的中文真的没的说,浏览器也有自己的东西!
你试试163邮箱,用其提供的信纸写封邮件。其他linux发行版连字都打不上!!
再看看动感邮件,其他linux发行版连字都看不到!!
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发表于 2005-9-4 13:15:00 | 显示全部楼层
觉得现在的XP界面真是做得不错.撇开其它的不论.就说在用LINUX吧.总是感觉LINUX的界面很虚浮...
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