scim + skim - "Failed to load x11 FrontEnd module."

damirperisa

liuspider, thank you for the explaination. now i understand. what you mean.

with scim -f socket -d and kconfig set, the scim will have the kde systray but will still only work with gtk2 apps but not x11 or kde apps. i think this means that x11 frontend module is needed for kde apps to see scim, right?

i compiled scim with debug enabled. unfortunately this gives not more verbosity.

1. 
   
2. (gdb) run
   
3. Starting program: /usr/bin/scim
   
4. (no debugging symbols found)
   
5. (no debugging symbols found)
   
6. (no debugging symbols found)
   
7. (no debugging symbols found)
   
8. (no debugging symbols found)
   
9. (no debugging symbols found)
   
10. (no debugging symbols found)
    
11. Smart Common Input Method 1.4.0
    
12. 
    
13. (no debugging symbols found)
    
14. Launching a SCIM process with x11...
    
15. Loading socket Config module ...
    
16. Creating backend ...
    
17. Loading x11 FrontEnd module ...
    
18. Failed to load x11 FrontEnd module.
    
19. SCIM has exited abnormally.
    
20. 
    
21. Program exited with code 01.
    
22. (gdb)
    

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maybe it's because i use xorg and it needs some xfree86 parts? or maybe something else?

here a list of sofware with versions:

glib2  2.6.5
atk  1.10.1
gtk2  2.6.8
xorg  11R6.8.2
gcc 3.4.3

liuspider

if your qt does not have the qtimm patch (qtimm is highly recommanded, please consider releasing a qt with qtimm patch applied), then all KDE/Qt apps has to rely on xim to work, thus requires the x11 module.

use this to start your scim to see more info:
scim -f x11 -- -v 5 -m all

liuspider

more details about qtimm and scim-qtimm:
http://www.scim-im.org/projects/scim_qtimm

damirperisa

Post by liuspider
if your qt does not have the qtimm patch (qtimm is highly recommanded, please consider releasing a qt with qtimm patch applied), then all KDE/Qt apps has to rely on xim to work, thus requires the x11 module.

use this to start your scim to see more info:
scim -f x11 -- -v 5 -m all

oh, i see. thank you for the magical words i need to use (-- -v 5 -m all)

unfortunately this gives no addtional info at the inportant part - the start of the x11 frontend module. what i get is this:

1. 
   
2. [...]
   
3. <00000641>:scim_backend.cpp:458 >     Loading IMEngine Factory 9 : OK
   
4. <00000646>:scim_config_base.cpp:78 > Warning : No default scim::String value for key "/Filter/FilteredIMEngines/List", using
   
5. default value.
   
6. <00000647>:scim_backend.cpp:458 >     Loading IMEngine Factory 10 : OK
   
7. <00000652>:scim_config_base.cpp:78 > Warning : No default scim::String value for key "/Filter/FilteredIMEngines/List", using
   
8. default value.
   
9. <00000653>:scim_backend.cpp:458 >     Loading IMEngine Factory 11 : OK
   
10. <00000658>:scim_config_base.cpp:78 > Warning : No default scim::String value for key "/Filter/FilteredIMEngines/List", using
    
11. default value.
    
12. <00000659>:scim_backend.cpp:458 >     Loading IMEngine Factory 12 : OK
    
13. <00000660>:scim_backend.cpp:468 > uim IMEngine module is successfully loaded.
    
14. <00000661>:scim_config_base.cpp:78 > Warning : No default scim::String value for key "/Filter/FilteredIMEngines/List", using
    
15. default value.
    
16. Loading x11 FrontEnd module ...
    
17. Failed to load x11 FrontEnd module.
    
18. SCIM has exited abnormally.
    

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the qtimm module is not used because we use qt3. with update to qt4, this will also be added automatically. that means that i rely on the x11 for skim.

as i don't know what else to check, i will ask the scim devs what they think about this problem.

pupilzeng

Actually, Liuspider is a scim developer and the author of skim. :-)

james_su

Hi,
  It seems that another XIM server is running which is currently using XMODIFIERS=@im=SCIM resource.

Regards
James Su

Post by damirperisa
liuspider, thank you for the explaination. now i understand. what you mean.

with scim -f socket -d and kconfig set, the scim will have the kde systray but will still only work with gtk2 apps but not x11 or kde apps. i think this means that x11 frontend module is needed for kde apps to see scim, right?

i compiled scim with debug enabled. unfortunately this gives not more verbosity.

1. 
   
2. (gdb) run
   
3. Starting program: /usr/bin/scim
   
4. (no debugging symbols found)
   
5. (no debugging symbols found)
   
6. (no debugging symbols found)
   
7. (no debugging symbols found)
   
8. (no debugging symbols found)
   
9. (no debugging symbols found)
   
10. (no debugging symbols found)
    
11. Smart Common Input Method 1.4.0
    
12. 
    
13. (no debugging symbols found)
    
14. Launching a SCIM process with x11...
    
15. Loading socket Config module ...
    
16. Creating backend ...
    
17. Loading x11 FrontEnd module ...
    
18. Failed to load x11 FrontEnd module.
    
19. SCIM has exited abnormally.
    
20. 
    
21. Program exited with code 01.
    
22. (gdb)
    

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maybe it's because i use xorg and it needs some xfree86 parts? or maybe something else?

here a list of sofware with versions:

glib2  2.6.5
atk  1.10.1
gtk2  2.6.8
xorg  11R6.8.2
gcc 3.4.3

damirperisa

ah ... cool, i didn't know ;-)

damirperisa

Post by james_su
Hi,
  It seems that another XIM server is running which is currently using XMODIFIERS=@im=SCIM resource.

Regards
James Su

i exported XMODIFIERS in ~/.xinitrc, if you mean that. but e.g. in xterm the CTRL+SPACE combination do not work.

however there is no scim process running. how do i check if a XIM-server is running?

wd_afei

我的也是这个问题。
可是我如果打开一个gtk程序他会自动启动scim，这样启动的scim就没有问题。